brandon429

okay so it was about someone elses wife wow thats a 180 difference in context lol well I have to use translator the semantics joke is on me thanks for clearning that up. Iceberg, lets pretend...

Thank you! I understand the tone now that was well written thanks for stopping in.

Some of the best reef work I have seen is in foreign boards, its a hoot to try and navigate the cultural differences in communication and writing style using a translator that is approximately 30% accurate. thats the personal entertainment side... the science side is sharing all these ideas and gaining others. for example Tomco's reef below is so shocking I will link it to nano-reef.com in USA, which if you haven't been there before, just click around and look at pics and use the translator as I do. Tomco's reef is in the top ten worldwide Ive seen for the size because of his color diversity, I can't get sps of that species where Im from so drooling on others is second best In fact I invite you and hopefully request any of you will post your aquariums at the massive website I co-moderate the nanos forum, Reefs.org one of the oldest forums on the web about saltwater aquariums. Use the translators to do what Im doing and we can share ideas across the globe, nobody does this nowadays except for yours truly and I highly recommend it. one of the best foreign boards for you to all picture surf is francenanorecif.com picture hopping is awesome there and so are many posts here, I will share your board with USA> you advertise many of the things we buy as well, just in another langauage:) so please tell me these things: 1. when you read my posts are they in scribbled words that make no sense, or are they in Polish but the meaning is all jumbled 2. is anyone reading the actual english text Im writing and what percentage makes sense to a Polish reader? 3. I wonder how crazy I must sound to you lol somehow my thread went crazy when it seemed two guys were talking about cats and my wife the translator had to play some role in the mishap and that's why this is just a tiny barrier to worldwide reef success. 4. has anyone typed in English to me or has this all been posted by the web translator, Im using IE7 and the blue button at the top. If anyone is offended by me posting other boards I will remove them, not to offend. I am simply listing the places I travel and meet tons of smart people.

also I don't have a wife just preparing for the day lol chivalry and pico reefs

no problem my only concern was the wife comments, the translators don't clarify what was said very well. Well if you would like to post up your pics you are welcome here anytime Brandon

My angle is to make an ecosystemic account for every animal in here. These are not haphazardly placed, they are balanced, selected for genetic size predisposition and the feeding system is the primary power source for the reef. Most reef aquariums are designed around feeding approaches that are slightly above the waste holding capabilities for the tank, and slightly below the needs of the animals, that's one of the toughest balances that makes the majority of reef tanks a slow decline from day one setup. that along with dosing for ion support. In these tiny tanks, a full 100% water change (complete export and import) takes 3 minutes per week, is less work than any other sized reef over a month's time, and saves me from having skimmers pumps filters sumps refugiums all tied to my reef looking like a wire hose maze. I simply input an enormous load of frozen cyclopeeze and marine bioplankton, let it swirl overnight, then change out all the water next morning. this feed/change coupling happens on Fridays, the rest of the week the reef lives off its internal fauna generated by the sandbed and from photosynthetic activity within the host/symbionts I dose 4 milliliters of C balance additive, each doser, spaced 15 minutes apart at 7 am or 8 am in the morning three times per week, this is in tandem with the critical carbon dioxide/respirative cycles of an aged pico reef. its not about simply cramming corals into a vase, if you did that without these techniques it would die in a week. I think this current vase is approaching 260 weeks now?

Tomco the coloration of your corals is outstanding this is among the nicest nano reefs Ive seen, well done its really impressive!!!

I didn't show up here to fight or see who could post the wittiest insults, maybe you should stop that. You make comments about someones wife on a reef tank forum in place of helpful observation? back to pico reef science, like how the thread started: not everyone likes the look of the packed vase with its magnifying effect/some would like to see more open spaces and a spotlight coral in the middle as opposed to rubbing elbows with 15 other genera, thats a great example of opinion I wouldn't try to sway. whats undeniable is that its balanced and that it works as well as any other reef tank design.

Those are all very acceptable opinions, but Id ask you how big do boxer crabs normally get? How big do the yellow banded coral shrimps get? they stay small regardless of molts, check around online for lybia tesellata and stenopus hispidus. The lifespan of the system and the lateral plating of the corals does not suggest they are unhappy, after all, you guys have no trouble accepting a 20 gallon nano and that is very small compared to the ocean. *Subjectivity* reins in the reefkeeping world, you guys can post pictures of cats all day long but what you see in the videos is pure biology, demonstrated by a truly aged captive reef system in my opinion. These systems and techniques are not found anywhere else so its not received well by the masses. Iceberg, I checked your profile to see your reef work. where are your tank pictures? id like to see what elements of unique design you put into your builds. when 20 gallon tanks came out, who accepted them? Now they are the largest of nanos, this is yet another round of evolution. it is far easier to run a reef vase than any other sized reef...I have many friends online who run them too and agree

the point of having systems so impossibly small is to demonstrate the adaptive power of mixed coral ecosystems and to be transportable, no other reef aquarium with SPS is transportable as a palmtop. Since I did not patent the design I have spread around the knowledge for about a decade now online to make my digital "stamp"!

thank you for stopping in Lucas what country are you from friend? The very first pics in the thread are good sps and lps growth, the coralline, and these tabular acropora shots above are detailed growth... the corals have been in there for years and its true it is cramped, but its also showing how they adapt in a way not familiar to common marine science. the coral warfare is supposed to be too much for this many species in less than a gallon, but it isn't! I let the health of the system, the lack of bad algae, and the corals plated onto the side of the glass (see the alveopora) speak for whether or not the corals like to be in this tiny vessel. The shrimp and crab molt regularly, yet do not get larger, here's the crab molting up inside the reef cave I built into the vase:

windows translator is down I can not read but will keep trying

and welcome to the site, I can see you took your first post on my international thread thank you

thank you leoni ha funny guy, you missed the picture of the reef in the car? eyes move closer to the screen, the same reef Are not you the first to say That though ... its a common response Im used to it! this is close enough to measure ~

3 inch tabular acropora growth from a half inch plug.

Translator works funny apparently, the post above says something about my wife> but I know this can't be the case. Chalk that one up to cross language communication perhaps... The shape of the vase alters the biology greatly. It has a longer topoff duration than a 100 gallon reef, as stable salinity. at 100th the size this is accomplished by the lid of the vase resting on the inner diameter neck and directing all salt splatter back into the tank. normally, air stone use is discouraged in reefkeeping (falsely) but in this case Ive harnessed it to drive off C02, maintain pH well, aerate, and circulate. The vase only uses an airstone to grow 15 species of mixed corals. It is the lowest maintenance reef one could own, to service it I only change the water. I feed only before a water change, and never in between, so nutrient accumulation is avoided. those are a few of the ways this reef breaks the rules of what's written in books.

here was the video I posted a year ago in its fourth year, the bowl ... The acanthastrea echinata, the red one, has receeded spot because I stopped feeding it out of Laziness. and zoanthids have Taken over much of the aquascape As They Usually the When well fed, other Than That all coral growth has been positive During this year ~

It is very easy for me not to want a larger reef, to me they are very problematic! I wouldn't even want a 5 gallon tank, the water changes take longer, getting the dosing balances retrained is more work and its hard to seal a large reef against evaporation. the only setback of keeping a small reef is they don't keep fish, but I only like corals and inverts anyway fish aren't that interesting to me so I just got lucky! additionally, all the filters, skimmers, dosing approaches etc used on large tanks are so varied its hard to get repeatably good results. for me the simplest and most stable reef aquarium is a one gallon or less that doesn't evaporate~

I think the most important aspect of a pico reef is that is breaks the previous laws set in formal reef media/print. Corals that are supposed to have relentless warfare can be tamed, chemically neutralized it seems, with slow and long term stocking. Stimulus desensitization in the nematocyst and allelopathic chemicals~ I do not work much with soft corals and sinularia, only stony coral experiments and species that stay small for the long term. Here is an article on the reefbowl that shows build steps: Google: "the history of pico reef biology"

some more pictures to show the build

thank you for stopping by. its hard to get the translator working so I will speak with more pictures we all speak evenly there... I have enjoyed seeing your tanks as well! These reef aquaria practice evaporation stoppage, not topping off to run at this size. The square reef is sealed, it does not evaporate, see the lid and the electrical lines running through the drilled lid. The vase is semi-sealed and only needs topoff once a week, at 3 liters!

Hello friends , just wanted to update my vase reef thread from last year . This has become the oldest a gallon pico reef worldwide, if you know of any longer running with videos or pictures please post Them I Am Gaining information for an article on longevity techniques pico reef I just Reached my 5th year and the inverts have been in there three , thanks for stopping in

this reef can be plugged into the car and will run fully with lights and pumps on very low voltage. The cords are plugged into a cigarrete lighter through a converter. http://www.reefs.org/forums/download/file.php?id=24230

robi, I wish I could speak French! but I can not and google translator only translates the website I think, not the posts. I can read a little of what you have said because of I have watched movies that were subtitled this thread has MANY pictures of the build steps and the reef as it travels to colleges and school showings for discussion. http://www.reefs.org/forums/topic72558.html#p838223 here is another video micro reef. these are long, but its so the detail can be studied by someone who is setting up a tank of this kind.